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Importing photo files without alteration plus have preview

asked on July 23, 2015

Hi – hope you can help me with this because so far I have not been able to locate answer in full.  We have a lot of photos in various mime types (jpg, tiff, png) that we need to import into Laserfiche - as is - no compression or changing to another format.  The problem is that unless we import as Laserfiche files, we can’t preview the photos.  But if we import as Laserfiche files, the mime type is not retained and does not appear in the column view.

Is there really no way to upload intact plus have the preview and mime type? 

 

Your help would be greatly appreciated.

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replied on July 24, 2015

I'm not sure if this scales to the number of documents you are describing, but you could do one of the following so that the original + MIME type are preserved, but you have Laserfiche image pages to support previewing.

  1. Let Laserfiche convert the image when you import it, then attach the original using Tasks > Add/Replace Electronic file
  2. Do not let Laserfiche convert the files, and use Snapshot to generate pages from the electronic file.
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replied on July 24, 2015

hi Justin - the "owners" of these particular photo files are the Communications group.  They are concerned if Laserfiche is altering the resolution/format in any way for photos that they upload.  Some of the photos are high resolution professional photos which they certainly do not want tampered with.  Others they want to see the original format uploaded but with the preview.  They want to see the format extension that the file is.  Other users of the photo files are general users who want to select photos for presentations, etc. and they do not want to open each file to see what it is.

We tried uploading as laserfiche image pages to support the preview but then the extension is not included in the file name nor is it appearing in the mime type column view option.  With the exception mentioned earlier of eps files that include eps in the mime type column view.   

I will try Brianna's workaround but users do not generally want to do twice the steps.

 

 

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replied on July 24, 2015

Shirley,

Thank you for your detailed explanation.

I understand that for graphic design and multimedia applications, it is very important that the visual qualities and the electronic metadata contained within are being preserved.

Due to Laserfiche product family having its roots in document management, compatibility with other third-party enterprise software were emphasized in the past. This is the main reason Laserfiche automatically converts imported imaged documents into its preferred format (TIFF and JPEG, with TIFF being preferred due to its multi-page support).

To ensure that images created with graphic design software are not modified, please import them as electronic documents. Electronic documents are not modified by Laserfiche without a user's control.

The technical (long) explanation of when and how the images are being modified by Laserfiche upon import (when not imported as electronic documents) are explained here: https://answers.laserfiche.com/questions/79796/a-client-wants-to-upload-files-to-the-repository-up-to-50-gb--#79943

Preview capability of electronic documents is an ongoing feature development in Laserfiche. This is because the preview for each additional electronic format requires unique software development effort.

To help prioritizing feature requests, please continue to let us hear the voices from your organization's users, especially your coworkers in the Communications group and coworkers who want to use their creative work.

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replied on July 24, 2015

The general issue here is that, by default, image formats are all converted into Tiff (or Tiff-Jpg, I believe, if color, although I may be mistaken) and so there's no longer any distinction between the originally types. You can control this in the file conversion list section of import options, but than as you note they are seen as electronic files and can only be opened outside of the document viewer in their native application. Basically, the Client just says 'is it an imaged document (converted to Tiff)' or is it not. 

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replied on July 24, 2015

Hi Shirley,

 

I see what you mean. I guess there must be a reason why JPG, PNG and TIFF formats are not shown in the extensions or MIME type columns. Need Laserfiche to chime in on that one..

 

As a workaround you can retain the file extension as part of the file name upon import?

 

Hope this helps! smileyyes

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replied on July 24, 2015 Show version history

Thanks Chris. We already have settings to retain the extensions.  But to retain the extensions as the workaround we then lose the option to preview the image as the   Unaltered photo files are then recognized as being electronic files that must each be opened to view.  

Note that eps photo files do not have same issue. They were imported as Laserfiche files with preview ability and the extension appears in the mime type column.

I have to test now because I'm wondering if it is because their Windows was set to not show extensions for known file types? Might not be a factor.

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replied on July 24, 2015

Hmmm. I've tested this and I can view JPG, TIF and PNG files in the preview pane. Like you say perhaps it is the associated program you have selected in windows to open these files. I've got it set as the Windows Photo Viewer, try changing it to that and you should see them appear in the preview pane in Laserfiche. laugh

 

Right click file in windows>Properties>Opens with>Windows Photo Viewer, check the box "Always use the selected program to open this kind of file".

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replied on July 24, 2015

I will try that with mine. However, that would be an issue for the file owners who have their settings so such files open with their graphic programs (eg Corel photopaint). 

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replied on July 24, 2015

Yes that could present a problem. Let's see if that is the root cause of the issue here first wink

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replied on July 24, 2015

Thanks.  This is very disappointing and impacting thousands of jpg, png and other current formats.  These users will be forced to continue retaining their photo files on network drives where they not only can quickly preview each photo, but have a column indicating the file type.  It is difficult to promote a platform that eliminates basic user processes and ease of use.

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replied on July 24, 2015 Show version history

Can you provide more information for why keeping the specifics of jpg, png, and other image types is important for your scenario? I've never encountered a situation where this is an issue, so I'm very curious to hear why it is one here. 

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replied on July 24, 2015

The use case is very similar to that of a Digital Asset Management (DAM) or Multimedia Asset Management (MAM). However, the requirements of DAM and MAM are somewhat different from that of document management (where "documents" are believed to be business documents).

Similar questions have been asked before: https://answers.laserfiche.com/questions/79796/a-client-wants-to-upload-files-to-the-repository-up-to-50-gb--

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