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QF import files without extension

asked on March 25, 2015

Hello,

I have to import a lot of old data, it's from a MAC.

There is a lot of data where the files are without Extension, now when I say in QF to import everything with *.* it does import the files, however leaves behind everything which has no extension.

 

The issue is I have to capture original creation & modification date & for that reason I need to run it through QF.

 

Can anyone PLEASE tell me how can I overcome this roadblock?

 

Thanks in advance.

S

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replied on March 25, 2015

I do not see why it being from a mac has any effect. The files should have an extension, are you sure that they do not identify with a MIME Type? maybe the QF workstation is just unable to identify that type of document. If so, you may need to install proper software that will add that compatibility

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replied on March 25, 2015

Let's just say, it's the case... any suggestions?

It's not only the QF WS, other machines also see them without extensions & on MAC you can just open them with associated application.

 

 

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replied on March 25, 2015

If there is an associated application, then it has some type of extension. You might have it where your workstations hide extensions it is not familiar with. Try looking on a mac what the extension is. "Right-Click"-> "Get Info"

 

On Windows as well, take a screenshot for us of the "General" tab of the "Properties" menu when you do the following on a document: "Right-Click" ->"Properties"

 

Feel free to exclude from the screenshot the name of the file itself for any security concerns you may have. This information should give us a better idea of how to handle these documents

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replied on March 25, 2015

Kenneth,

there is no extension listed in old mac file formats, these are frills from 2006

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replied on March 25, 2015

See attached screenshot, in the old mac system the file extension was not there, it's only in the newer OSX.

 

Now, how do you suggest WF to pick up new documents & fill the name, I mean what should I make WF trigger the extension?

 

We are talking of 30TB of data here.

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replied on March 25, 2015

I don't care if it associates with application or has extension, I just want QF to import all the documents, currently it just leaves those documents there without importing them....

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replied on March 25, 2015

"*.*" expects an extension, so this works as designed.

Make a filter for "*." in Quick Fields. They'll be imported as electronic documents and the user will be prompted for an application to open them with.

Ken is right though, you probably want to find a way to give them an extension before import so the user does not have to specify the application to open them with every time they double-click them in the Laserfiche Client.

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replied on March 25, 2015

Thanks Miruna,

is there a . (dot) after Astrix?

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replied on March 25, 2015

When I give

*.  

it doesn't process anything...

 

Processing Summary:
0 page(s) processed.
0 identified document(s).
    0 All Import (0 pages)
0 unidentified document(s).
0 error(s) occurred.
Pages Per Minute: 0

 

 

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replied on March 25, 2015

Both *.* and *. import files with no extension in Quick Fields 9.0 for me. You probably want to open up a support case and attach a sample file so we can see if there's anything special about your files. It doesn't matter how MACs see them, it matters how Windows sees them.

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replied on March 25, 2015

I tried this with the latest patched version of Quick Fields 9 and used the sample images from the Laserfiche Client program files folder renamed without an extension and it works for me. See this video for a demonstration.

Try with a brand new session that does no processing at all and just searches a directory in Windows for *.* and if you're still having an issue, please open a support case and we can investigate the matter further.

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replied on March 25, 2015

@Alex

Thanks for the video, I created a brand new session, however I still can't make it work.

I think it's best I open Support Case.

 

 

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replied on March 25, 2015

The issue occurs when you use the "Include subfolders" option. We'll look into the matter and update the thread when more information is available.

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replied on March 26, 2015

Any update?

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replied on March 26, 2015

No. A software change request was filed yesterday, but there's no new information at this point.

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replied on March 26, 2015

Thanks Alex!

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replied on March 30, 2015

Alex, any timeline when to expect solution? Thanks.

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replied on April 7, 2015

Hello,

Is there any time line as of when this issue will be resolved?

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replied on April 7, 2015

The required fix for this is fairly complex and there is no timeline for it.

The reason why it doesn't work when including subfolders is because of the extra processing needed to determine whether the extension-less object was an actual file or a subfolder that needed to be traversed.

In any case, if there is urgency for mass importing these extension-less files into the repository, then you may be better off looking into an alternative method besides using Quick Fields for this.

Once these documents do make it into the repository, they will remain being treated as extension-less edocs and so opening them will always result in the user being prompted for the type of application they want to use to open it. Is this just for archival purposes mainly moreso than getting the documents into the repository to actually work with them?

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replied on April 7, 2015 Show version history

Alex,

These are jUst for archival & I don't care about the files being asked for application at later stage.

My concern is only about the original date of creation & modification. 

Any suggestions how t

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replied on April 27, 2015

Hi,

Is there any timeline for this issue to be resolved???

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replied on April 27, 2015

https://support.laserfiche.com/KB/1013636

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replied on April 27, 2015

Thanks a lot!

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replied on April 28, 2015

Hello, 

The QF works fine, however I have a big problem, there is no Creation & Modification date for folders.... I do get these pulled in the documents, but nothing on Folders?

 

Please Help.

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replied on April 28, 2015

I don't know what you're talking about, Quick Fields does not scan folders, it only scans documents.

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replied on April 28, 2015

Thanks, it's clear, but if you can suggest something about what I want to achieve below, would be Great.

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replied on April 28, 2015

Hello,

I think I might have a possible workaround , please tell me if it's possible, if yes, how to get there....

 

So, every folder has documents with correct Creation & Modification date, which are part of a Template called Original Date.

 

Now, if I can somehow look in every folder (this means if there is a sub-folder, then inside that subfolder) for document having oldest Creation Date & assign this date to the parent folder of that entry, then I think I have achieved (not 100%, but acceptable) solution.

 

I think WF would be the best for it, but I need help to achieve this, to create syntax for finding lowest date & then the logic of creating on sub-folder level...

 

Can anyone Please help me in finding this solution?

 

Regards,

S

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replied on April 28, 2015

The closest I have found is this reply:

https://answers.laserfiche.com/questions/65285/Find-Oldest-Document-in-a-Folder

 

However, I still am not sure of how to achieve....

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