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Retrieving Stamps Content within Workflows

asked on November 5, 2013

I have 2 clients asking for a workflow activity to retrieve the text contained within stamps.

 

I don't think this can be done in WF 9.0.2, so is there any plan out there?

 

Regards,

 

Lou

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replied on November 6, 2013

Thanks for the additonal information.

 

I'd recommend using a script or custom activity for now.

 

The tokens at the bottom (_Date, SessionCount, etc.) are not generally available when retrieving data and depending on security (like private) workflow may not have access to all of the stamps but the rest seem reasonable.

 

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replied on November 5, 2013

i do not believe this is possible with stamps. Maybe other types of annotations. 

 

You may want to try and have a workflow start off whenever a stamp is applied and schedule OCR (will need Web Access 9.1 with distributed processing. This would re-OCR the document and then you' have the content of the stamp inside the searchable text. 

 

That's the only way I can think to do this assuming you cannot do an advanced search

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replied on November 6, 2013

Hello Kenneth,

 

Thanks for your suggestions... still my question remains: ...so is there any plan out there?

 

Regards,

 

Lou

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replied on November 6, 2013

There isn't currently a plan to retrieve text contained within stamps for 9.1.

 

If you can post the stories for the customers (what they want to do with the text within the annotation), that'll help us in creating the feature for a future version of the product.

 

Some obvious questions that occur to me right away is

a) Are you trying to OCR the stamp?

b) Are you trying to figure out if a stamp was applied?

c) Are you using the custom "The user can type the text in" type of stamp?

 

If its case a or b, you should look into the 'Document: Stamp Names' condition. You'll have to scroll down a bit in this to the section "The Stamp Name condition" http://www.laserfiche.com/support/webhelp/workflow/9.1/en-us/LFWorkflow.htm#cshid=Resources/Activities/Using%20Condition%20Editors.htm

 

 

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replied on November 6, 2013

Hello Ed,

 

Thank you for your timely reply. Both clients effectively require a WF activity that retrieves text in custom "The user can type the text in" type of stamps. Given this requirement makes sense to me, could Laserfiche make a feature request out of this post?

 

Thanks again,

 

Lou 

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replied on November 6, 2013 Show version history

We still require some more specifics. Often with an activity we need to figure out what options are required to meet the use case and what the output would be. Usually the output is in the form of tokens, and determining what those tokens are ahead of time will lead to a more successfull chance of any activity we implement actually being something useful to your customers.

 

What would they be using the text for?

Would they want the text from all stamps? From a single page? From a particular user? All of the above?

 

Also, there is a very good chance the activity will not be released in the near future. The functionality is relatively easy to achieve with a script or custom activity.

 

 

 

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replied on November 6, 2013

Hello Ed,

 

Your questions very appropriate... let me try this:

 

(new) Activity 'Retrieve Stamp Values' would return the following multi-value (as per the number of stamps applied to the document) tokens:

 

_Name: the name of the stamp

_Page: the page where the stamp is applied

_Text: the text stored in the stamp

_List: the list the stamp belongs to (either Public, Personal or Quickstamp)

 

...as well as multi-value tokens for the stamp's metadata:

_Creator

_DateCreated

_LastModified

_Comments

_Style (either Private or Protected)

 

...and finally the value of the tokens available to build up the text, namely:

_Date

_SessionCount

_RepositoryCount

_UserName

_Parent Name

_EntryID

_ParentID

_Percent

 

Thank you for considering,

 

Lou

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replied on November 6, 2013

Thanks for the additonal information.

 

I'd recommend using a script or custom activity for now.

 

The tokens at the bottom (_Date, SessionCount, etc.) are not generally available when retrieving data and depending on security (like private) workflow may not have access to all of the stamps but the rest seem reasonable.

 

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