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laserfiche quickfields pattern matching first page identification

asked on September 3, 2019

For some reason, When my first page identification activity : Pattern Matching meets the RegEx and in the output you can see the correct value that matched the RegEx however it does not create the new document. It will just append to the first document created. 

My second document is not being created. 

It just continues to add the page. 

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replied on September 3, 2019 Show version history

Do you have any Last Page Identification configured? If you have Last Page Identification, it will not check the First Page Identification conditions again until the last page conditions are satisfied.

I agree, the wording is a bit confusing. If the First Page identification triggers a new document, then that should count as creating a new document.

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replied on September 3, 2019

No last page conditions. 

 

Just have the first page identification. 

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replied on September 3, 2019

Could you post a screenshot of the configuration for the first and last page identification activities? That would help give a better idea of what should be happening.

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replied on September 3, 2019 Show version history

 

OmniPage Zone was used for reading the location of the text im trying to read but i discovered that OmniPage OCR works better w pattern Matching and text identification with the overall scanned documents. 

The test where i was able to see the outputs that match RegEx but not creating a new document was just with Pattern Matching. I added the text identification with the same RegEx and i get more documents created. 

Im trying to figure out why having just having pattern matching .. doesnt work. 

 

With the text identification, i was able to create more new documents but its strange because the token for naming the document is the pattern matching token so i know that pattern matching works properly. 

when i take the text identification out.. it wont create new documents. 

 

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replied on September 3, 2019

Okay so Pattern Matching isn't necessarily a "true or false" result on its own; it is just a way to extract a text match.

Do you have Identification Conditions set in the pattern matching activity?

For it to actually support first page identification, it needs some sort of identification condition, for example, the Pattern Matching result not being empty.

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replied on September 3, 2019

hmmm okay cool, for some reason i do not have identification condition for my first pattern matching and it wont give me an option to add one. 

 

so i have created a new pattern matching activity and it shows the ability to add the condition. 

 

im going to do a few tests with that and ill update you. 

 

Thanks 

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replied on September 3, 2019 Show version history

99% sure that is the reason. Some activities, like Text Identification, inherently give true/false results, but others, like Pattern Matching, require Identification Conditions because they may or may not directly affect page identification.

As an example, I have a session that tries to match a pattern, but it may be empty even on a valid first page. In that session, a barcode result is what I'm actually looking for, so I only have an identification condition on the barcode and not the pattern.

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replied on September 3, 2019

Do you have it configured to flag a document as complete, and therefore start a new document, when "First Page Identification conditions" are satisfied?

Check Last Page Identification to see make sure it is set to trigger on the first page and not the last page.

replied on September 3, 2019

Yes, the condition for last page has been set to "when first page identifcation conditions are met" 

 

The wording of that condition is a bit confusing, because it states the document completes when first page identification conditions are satisfied AND a new document is created.. so then what makes the new document? the first page condition right? as long as they are met a new document should be created? or is there something else that would create a new document. 

replied on September 3, 2019

Yes, the condition for last page has been set to "when first page identifcation conditions are met" 

 

The wording of that condition is a bit confusing, because it states the document completes when first page identification conditions are satisfied AND a new document is created.. so then what makes the new document? the first page condition right? as long as they are met a new document should be created? or is there something else that would create a new document. 

 

 

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