SQL Number of Cals

replied on November 12, 2014

It has always been my understanding that due to the way the SQL Server database is accessed, you would only need your SQL Server Standard license and a single user CAL for the Laserfiche service account. This is because your individual users, Avante users, Forms users, and Participant users, are not directly accessing SQL. Instead they are accessing the Laserfiche server and the Laserfiche service account is making the direct call to SQL to read and write information.

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replied on November 12, 2014 • Show version history

Laserfiche licenses are completely independent of Microsoft CALs. You still need to license your MSSQL CALs regardless of your Laserfiche Rio or Avante installation.

Have are some old threads from the old forum you can use as a guide.

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replied on December 8, 2014 • Show version history

Hi Raymond,

So as a result, I will need to have MSSQL Server License and 4 CALs for my configuration?

- 1 Cal for Laserfiche Server.

- 1 Cal for Laserfiche Forms to connect to the MSSQL Server.

- 1 Cal for Audit Trail to connect to the MSSQL Server.

- 1 Cal for workflow server to connect to the MSSQL Server.

Please if possible to acknoledge this.

Thanks,

Dory

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replied on December 11, 2014 • Show version history

Hi Dory,

To clarify, even though users connect to the SQL Server through the Laserfiche Server, based on Microsoft's licensing policy you will need 1 CAL for each user that will be connecting to the system. This means that you're looking at:

- 5 CALs for the 5 Full users and Forms users (these should be the same 5 people)

- 200 CALs for the 200 forms participate users.

You won't need a CAL for each of the application servers.

Instead of getting CALs for each user, you may want to consider a per-core license for that server instead.

I've attached some documentation from Microsoft that will help explain the details.

multiplexing.pdf (593.78 KB)

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replied on December 11, 2014

In particular, in this forum post Karl Chan says:

If you have 10 users for LF then all 10 users have to be licensed for SQL. Look at "Choosing How to License SQL Server" at http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/2000/reskit/part2/c0461.mspx. Refer to the section talking about multiplexing because this is what Laserfiche does.

Dale Brumbaugh adds the following:

[...]you are mistaking what technically works and what legally works (according to Microsoft). [...] You could have a server license with a 5 CAL pack and connect hundreds of users to that server technically. Yet legally Microsoft requires a CAL for each client that accesses the server.

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replied on September 2, 2015

hello,

What about if i have forms unlimited portal, do i need the sql enterprise edition, or i need only 1 CAL .

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replied on September 2, 2015

This sounds like a question for Microsoft, as it concerns their licensing policy rather than Laserfiche functionality or licensing policy, but based on previous discussion, I suspect the answer would be Enterprise (since you have an unknown, unlimited number of users). As I quoted above "legally Microsoft requires a CAL for each client that accesses the server."

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replied on September 2, 2015

If you can accurately count the number of users that will be using Laserfiche Forms, then you can buy one SQL Server user CAL for each of these users. If you cannot, then you must license SQL Server using the per-CPU/core licensing. Note that per-CPU/core licensing for SQL Server is always an option, whether or not you can accurately count the number of users using Laserfiche Forms.

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replied on November 22, 2017

Here is a good article that explains this confusing topic:

https://www.mirazon.com/how-is-sql-server-2016-licensed-part-1-the-basics/

Among their findings:

The Core vs. CALS break even is 32 users for SQL Server 2016. Below 32 users, CALS is less expensive. Above 32 users, Core is less expensive.

As Michael pointed out, an unlimited version of any Laserfiche portal product requires Core licensing.

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replied on September 6, 2018

May I ask if the case that Starter Public Portal (10 weblink concurrent connections) and Laserfiche Forms Portal add-on (allow form submission from public users), is it only counted with Laserfiche Named Users only?

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