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Epson DS-510 configuration issues

asked on August 29, 2014

The Epson DS-510 had a feature presentation at Empower 2014 during one of the general sessions. We bought one to test in hopes of using it enterprise wide. I can't get it to work with Laserfiche scanning.

 

 My VAR, MCCi (your top VAR), did not succeed either. I just finished a support call to Epson and they informed me that they do not support third party  software such as Laserfiche regarding configuration settings.

 

Can anyone there provide a list of items for me to set to get the Epson DS-510 successfully configured?

 

Thanks you in advance for your time!

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replied on August 29, 2014

Hi Chris,

 

Can you clarify what the exact issue is? Are you getting a specific error message when trying to configure the scanner?

 

We have an Epson DS-860 in house that works fine for us so without further information, I can't really think of what the issue may be.

 

You can also have MCCi open a support case on your behalf so that we can troubleshoot the matter further.

 

Regards

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replied on August 29, 2014

I'm wondering if there may be an issue with the OCR engine installed on that workstation. That component is used for auto rotating.

 

Can you try uninstalling the 9.1 Client Suite as well as the OmniPage 18.5 OCR engine? Then delete the C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Laserfiche\Batch Processor folder (as long as there are no other Laserfiche applications installed). Finally, reboot the computer and reinstall the 9.1 Client Suite with OmniPage 18.5. Now see if you are able to scan.

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replied on August 29, 2014

Hi Alexander,

 

Here is what I have done so far:

 

1) installed the drivers on disk

2) powered the scanner on

3) opened LF scanning

4) chose TWAIN as scan source

5) selected the scanner (Epson DS-510)

6) Clicked the start scanning icon

 

I get the following message:

Failed to create the 'BP AutoRotateClient.BPProcessEx' process.

 

This is on a second machine. The first machine we could not get past step 5 above.

 

I will have MCCi open a support case with you. I thought there was a high probability that you would have a suggestion if this was a know issue with an endorsed scanner type. Looks like I have another unique case on my hands :)

 

Thank you sir.

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replied on August 29, 2014

I will try that now. Thanks for the tip.

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replied on August 29, 2014

Below is what I have to share about this. I will be opening a support ticket through my VAR to see if your scanning specialists have any more recommendations. Thanks for your help today. Hopefully this info can help someone else as well.

 

My observations:

 

I can get the Epson DS-510 to work with LF using TWAIN and WIA as a scan source.


I can only use the on board LF functions such as manually choosing page size, color type and paper source. This is extremely annoying.

 

I cannot use any of the on board default scanner software which surpasses the on board LF functions.


If I choose 'use default scanner software' with the TWAIN driver, scanning freezes and I must manually close it. It will save the scanned pages only after trying to close it from task manager.

There is another similar option using the WIA driver where I can 'use scanner default settings'. I can't figure out how to set the scanner's default settings to use it's superior functionality.

 

The two features that the scanner can do which LF does not: auto detect page size and auto detect color. If I can't at the minimum use auto detect page size, then this scanner is garbage.

 

I also can't get it to work with ScanConnect. It throws the following error:
Insufficient PermissionsPixDrvLoad("DR2580C") failed [-4587]

 

FYI my previous scanner is the above mentioned DR2580C. It is a Canon ImageFORMULA DR-2580C.

 

Thanks again!

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replied on August 29, 2014

We'll look into the TWAIN issue further. However, for the ScanConnect issue, please try uninstalling and reinstalling ScanConnect 8.3. May want to make sure you are logged in as a user with UAC set to never notify when doing the installation. Then look at KB 1011942 and follow the resolution about making sure the *.chn files provided there get copied into the C:\Windows\PIXTRAN folder. Then, try downloading the latest ISIS driver for that scanner from Epson's website and install that. Finally, for the user that actually logs into Windows and does the scanning using ScanConnect, make sure that Windows user has rights to modify C:\Windows\setscan.ini as well as general read rights to C:\Windows\PIXTRAN

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replied on September 2, 2014

Thanks for the detailed instructions Alexander.

 

I followed all of them and still could not access the TWAIN features (auto color and auto page size). I came very close once where I set the ScanConnect scanner options to use the TWAIN drivers. Each time I get a message that "the scanconnect scanning module has stopped working" or a message that the computer has lost connection with the scanner.

 

I has attempted on both 32 bit and 64 bit machines. Both failed. I'll wait to hear back from you about the TWAIN drivers.

 

It may be different on other peoples computers, but on mine the Epson DS-510 is unstable.

 

Thanks you for the time you put into this endeavor.

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replied on September 2, 2014

There are issues when using TWAIN and the Epson DS series driver's auto size and auto color detection options and we are looking into those.

 

ScanConnect is an interface that allows our scanning software to work with a scanner's ISIS driver, not the TWAIN driver. If you are using ScanConnect, make sure that you have installed the scanner's ISIS driver and that it has been confirmed to work correctly. You can run C:\Windows\PIXTRAN\testappn.exe to first confirm that the scanner driver is installed and working correctly.

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replied on September 2, 2014

I uninstalled the ISIS driver rebooted and then re installed it before trying this.

 

It looks like by running the testappn.exe I can confirm that "Driver: 'ds510' selected."

 

 

Or

 

 

If I choose no at the prompt, it shows a "scanner selection" list. There are the following in the list:

 

 

Nowhere in the ISIS drivers interface can I choose auto color or auto page size. I have to specify exactly what I want there.

 

 

What I was referring to above where you can choose TWAIN through ISIS is this:

From Scan Source I choose ScanConnect.

From Scanner Selection I can choose between EPSON DS-510 or EPSON DS-510 with PixTWAIN:

 

 

If I choose the second choice, in Scanner Options there is a tab named Troubleshooting. It gives me the option to "Scan with TWAIN interface" and several other options:

 

 

By going this route, when I clicked the start scanning button, I was prompted with the TWAIN interface. I thought I had found a workaround there for a moment! ...but alas it did not work.

 

Thanks Alexander

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replied on September 2, 2014

What about when you select the "Espon DS-510" scanner from the scanner selection box for ScanConnect? Are the options you're looking for not available in the scanner's ISIS driver?

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replied on September 2, 2014 Show version history

That is correct. These pics are from that selection and then going to Scanner Options.

 

 

 

Hope this helps

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replied on September 2, 2014

Thanks. It doesn't appear that Epson's ISIS driver supports those options. As for using their TWAIN driver and interacting directly with Epson's default scanner software to use their auto color detection and auto page size options, we'll update this thread after the teams at Laserfiche and Epson review the issue.

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replied on September 2, 2014

Sounds good. I'll keep an eye out for it. Thanks again!

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replied on April 21, 2015

Chris and Alexander,

I was hoping to hear if there was a resolution to the Epson TWAIN driver and Laserfiche Scan client issue.   We are on RIO 9.1.1.586 and are having the same issue trying to demo Epson scanners (DS-760 and DS-70000).   When trying to use the Default scanner software option in Scanner Options, we can get the pages to scan but the scanning client freezes up.  After closing the application with Task Manager, the scanned images are briefly displayed.  This sounds just like your issue in this thread.   If you select the Twain driver with Laserfiche Scan client displaying the settings, the drop down options do not display correctly for paper size, paper source and color otions.   Making the scan process unworkable.

Any update would be helpful.

Regards, Gary

 

 

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replied on April 21, 2015 Show version history

The issue with using the toolbar to control the Laserfiche TWAIN settings has been fixed in Laserfiche 9.2.1. I have yet to hear back regarding using the default scanner software.

Edit - 4/21/2015

In testing with Laserfiche Scanning 9.2.1 and the Epson DS-760 using the Epson driver and scan utility v5.3.0.1 from 4/3/2014, scanning in TWAIN using the default scanner software worked fine in the base scenario. See this video for a demonstration.

The recommendation at this point is to upgrade to Laserfiche 9.2.1.

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replied on April 22, 2015

Thank you for providing this update and the video link.   I hope that using the DS-70000 scanner will work the same as they seem to share the same driver.   I will follow up with our Epson contacts and start planning for a 9.2.1 upgrade for our environments.   The upgrade looks promising to be the fix. 

Regards Gary

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replied on April 22, 2015

You're welcome Gary. Note that while Laserfiche Scanning 9.2.1 can work with the default Epson TWAIN scanner software, Auto Color Detection and Auto Page Size Detection are still not supported.

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replied on April 23, 2015

Any hope for those features? That would make this little scanner quite competitive. In other words, is there still an open ticket for the scanner or is it now closed?

 

Thanks for the good news Alexander!

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